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 Post subject: Back up camera?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:17 am 
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Has anyone tried to install an aftermarket backup camera? There are a few types that use the power from the license plate light mounted to the license plate frame and room for a small screen above the cup holders.

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 Post subject: Re: Back up camera?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:16 pm 
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Electricbowtie wrote:
Has anyone tried to install an aftermarket backup camera? There are a few types that use the power from the license plate light mounted to the license plate frame and room for a small screen above the cup holders.

Good question, Electricbowtie. I've also wondered about adding those little button sensors to the bumpers that signal if you are getting too close to the curb. Would they affect my warranty? Would they be a draw on the electrical system affecting range?


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 Post subject: Re: Back up camera?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:57 pm 
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The sensors may be an easier install than the camera. I doubt there is any noticeable battery drain since they would only come on when in reverse.

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2014 Electric Blue Spark EV (EV best = 79 miles (16.6kwh) with 15 to go)
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 Post subject: Re: Back up camera?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:22 pm 
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Korean version of Spark (Spark-S and Spark EV) has backup camera and turn signal on the side mirror:

http://www.chevrolet.co.kr/vehicle/spark-s.gm
(scroll down to the middle of page you will see a close up view)

http://www.chevrolet.co.kr/vehicle/spark-ev.gm
If you watch the rear view of Spark EV it has a backup camera mounted on the right of plate too.


if these accessories can be purchased in the US...


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 Post subject: Re: Back up camera?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:39 pm 
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Boy, a wide-angle rear cam would be a great addition. The rear visibility is pretty poor with those chubby C pillars and rear headrests. If anyone does this, please post details.

TadiBrothers sells a variety of kits that might work. A little spendy but if cost is no object...
http://www.tadibrothers.com/Catalog/Bac ... kup-Camera


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 Post subject: Re: Back up camera?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:15 pm 
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Curiosity got the best of me and I did a little Googling. As mentioned, it seems GM has done the legwork here in creating parts and software, just hasn't combined it into reality in the US models. It must be VERY nearly production, as it's even in the owner's manual (page 9-31 and 9-32). This is kind of a notepad really, not a solution, but if anybody else wants to run with it and see if we can figure out a way to enable a "factory" rear view camera, there's some strength in numbers here.

Camera and Housing

I found this document:

http://www.gmsva.com/inc/files/editor/f ... ch-kit.pdf

That includes a few notes about the camera system (RPO code DBZ ???) and references this part number:

95066871 - Rear View Camera w/Chrome Rear Closure (DBZ)

I THINK (but haven't been able to confirm) that this part number would contain the camera shown in this picture above the license plate of this Korean Spark EV:

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Software

It seems there must be a way to turn this function on in software, as some Spark owners have already had the "wrong" software installed for their infotainment screen display this error message:

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http://chevysparkforum.com/topic/1146-s ... on-system/

The software on the radio is updated with a USB stick, so in theory with the right program on the USB stick one could update the radio to use the rear camera (IN THEORY, no idea if this is possible).

Electrical

Typically, OEMs (including GM) use a power, ground, and video signal between the head unit. I expect the camera would need a wiring harness created to do this, as I doubt GM pre-wired for this option. Of course, since they were planning on it, it's possible that there's a wiring pigtail in the rear hatch just hanging out waiting for a camera. I wouldn't bet on it though!

Here are some other useful or interesting links:

http://chevysparkforum.com/topic/1459-w ... lfunction/
http://chevysparkforum.com/topic/851-my ... up-camera/
http://sandyblogs.com/techlink/?p=1668

I reserve the right to update/modify this post in the future if I find better info! :)

Bryce


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 Post subject: Re: Back up camera?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:36 pm 
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Depending on the car sometimes they include the wiring in the harness for extra uninstalled options. Once we get our Spark I'll poke around a bit and see if the pigtail is there.. Who knows..


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 Post subject: Re: Back up camera?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:42 pm 
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So i pulled removed the right license plate light from the hatch to see what was behind and only found a single harness to the light. I was thinking of tapping into the power there, since many of the license plate mounted cameras work that way, but that style would NOT work, since it obstructs the hatch handle in the center, so I will need to look for other options that are offset like the Korean model. I also noticed that the light was installed backward (shining away from rear plate) so i swapped it around.

Wondering if something like this could be mounted using the same screws as the license plate light.

http://www.amazon.com/Version-Esky-EC17 ... 90&sr=1-10

Need to find something at Fry's to try out so I can easily take it back if it doesn't work. ;)

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2012 Cyber Gray Volt (EV best = 51.5 miles)
https://www.voltstats.net/Stats/Details/1192

2014 Electric Blue Spark EV (EV best = 79 miles (16.6kwh) with 15 to go)
http://www.voltstats.net/SparkEV/Stats/Details/4223


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 Post subject: Re: Back up camera?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:48 pm 
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Location: Sacramento, CA
Ideally you would want to tap into the power of the reverse light, that's how I installed my aftermarket camera on a honda civic that I own. If not then it will only power when you have the license plate light on depending on how it's wired internally. On the civic, when the rear light receives power my head-unit detects the power change and automatically switches to the camera.

I used one of these that's more universal and mounted it on the license plate.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049LBJ56/

It's not as nice looking or as trim and flush as the one you posted but it works great and the quality is good also. I have it hooked up to a pretty snazzy Pioneer head-unit and it basically takes in any Video-type input cable that will come from any camera.


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 Post subject: Re: Back up camera?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:38 pm 
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Another possibility I stumbled on today:

95378883 - 2014 Spark Rear View Camera, Prime

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The Rearview Camera system is designed to allow the driver to see certain stationary objects located behind the vehicle while traveling in Reverse at low speeds.

2014 Spark Rear View Camera, Paint to Match - price does not include charge for painting. For Use on Spark Non EV Models


According to the local parts guy, the car must have the following RPOs for compatibility:

A91 - LOCK CONTROL RR CMPT TAILGATE, REM CONT ELEC OPEN/CLOSE R/COMPT LID PULLDOWN
CD6 - WIPER SYSTEM,RR WINDOW,PULSE SYSTEM REAR WINDOW WPR SYS
DBZ - HANDLE O/S, LID/TAILGATE, SATIN CHROME CHROME LID/TAILGATE O/S HANDLE
RWR - ACCESSORY CAMERA, REAR VISION ACCESSORY REAR VISION CAMERA

MSRP is $350.

Bryce


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