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Re: Spark EV - An affordable electric racecar (my build thre

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:53 am
by Taxman
I just thought of something, but they might be a little heavy.
The snow tires on my Ion are 195/60/15 on steel 15x6ET42, 100x4BCD, 57.1 center hole.
If those will fit a spark, I won't even have to buy tires, just use last year's Saturn tires.
Looks like I'm in business, wheel-size.com says the Spark EV wheels are 56.6mm.
Now I just need a private offer coupon, and maybe a bit more than the current $10,475 lease incentive package.


I wonder what GM financial would do if you turned in a Spark with four year old snow tires on steel wheels with wheel covers, as long as the snow tires are still over 4/32.

Re: Spark EV - An affordable electric racecar (my build thre

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:45 am
by NORTON
Taxman wrote:I just thought of something, but they might be a little heavy.
The snow tires on my Ion are 195/60/15 on steel 15x6ET42, 100x4BCD, 57.1 center hole.
... wheel-size.com says the Spark EV wheels are 56.6mm.

I wonder what GM financial would do if you turned in a Spark with four year old snow tires on steel wheels with wheel covers, as long as the snow tires are still over 4/32.
That would be funny to get steelies and wheel covers past the post lease acceptance !!! You should still use 'hubcentric rings' on the steelies, correct? Give it a try some weekend and let us know!


I spoke to someone at tirerack last fall about steel wheels and winter tires. He said they had some that work. I question that and I didn't pursue it because we get so little snow these days, I wonder why?
In Michigan you'd want winter tires, I'm sure.

Have you considered buying used? That's the route I used to get a Spark EV to KC. (I take it into the dealership that serviced my Volt for the airbags SW recall on Saturday morning.)
I have +20k miles on it since I bought it with 3500 miles on it, mostly for free due to the free charging network in KC !!

Re: Spark EV - An affordable electric racecar (my build thre

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:34 am
by Taxman
NORTON wrote:
1. You should still use 'hubcentric rings' on the steelies, correct? Give it a try some weekend and let us know!

2. Have you considered buying used? That's the route I used to get a Spark EV to KC.
1. Since you'd need hubcentric rings about 0.009" thick, I think I'd skip that part and just let them center on the nuts.
Even if it's off by 1/100th of an inch, that's less than the imperfections in a tire.

2. That's what started the whole idea, finding one on Leasetrader for $107 a month plus $10,800 at lease end, then finding out that they required lease assumptions to be between people living in the same state, then finding a 2015 in Wisconsin with 5000 miles on it for $11,600, then realizing that new ones aren't much more than that...

My new goals are to find a used one for $10k - $0.20 per odometer mile, or a new one for $11.5k on a lease.
I might do both. If I lease one I'll try real hard to find out where it's being auctioned when the lease is done. I think in the winter of 2019-2020, Spark EVs will be dirt cheap at midwest dealer auctions, well below the lease residuals.

Re: Spark EV - An affordable electric racecar (my build thre

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:55 pm
by fox
I picked mine up for $7500 LT2 EV, cost me $700 to ship it to me but couldn't exactly fly there and drive back, 3rd car I've shipped and had zero issues with shipping thus far, titles from shady dealers is another story.(request to inspect a title of any car before signing) and I'm highly interested in if hptuners or anyone really ever got anywhere. If not my next mission will be a newer(think bolt or spark ev) drivetrain into a 2008 Smart cabrio for a weeeeee good time.

Re: Spark EV - An affordable electric racecar (my build thread)

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:40 pm
by SVTWRC
Ok gang , Anyone know if the Planted Race seat bracket for the Chevy Sonic fits the Spark ? I’ve ordered a drivers seat and have Contacted Planted . They have not had a Spark in to match the floor plan but it looks very similar as do the stock brackets of the Sonic and look like the same seats in the base model ! Pretty sure I have everything worked out with the airbag light resistor like done in all race seats that retain use of the airbag system. 2.2 resistor seems to be a match but I am double checking that. Also the seat belt and chime can swap over but not the heated seats unless you hack your stock seats. The point of this would be a quick swap of components for Autocross , drag race , track and then be easily swapped out for the stock seat . Stay tuned the bracket is on the way.

Re: Spark EV - An affordable electric racecar (my build thread)

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:30 pm
by Kermit
I I can not answer your question but I know the Spark EV has an electrical component under the driver seat that sticks up a little bit and it is not on the ICE version. Hopefully the bracket will clear it. I'm interested to hear what you find out.

Re: Spark EV - An affordable electric racecar (my build thread)

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:47 am
by SVTWRC
Kermit wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:30 pm
I I can not answer your question but I know the Spark EV has an electrical component under the driver seat that sticks up a little bit and it is not on the ICE version. Hopefully the bracket will clear it. I'm interested to hear what you find out.
http://www.plantedtechnology.com/media/ ... 81dr-2.jpg The hooks are such are a different feature in the front. The middle is large enough for that black and yellow connector under the drivers seat. The Sonic and Spark base seats look to be the exact same mounting bracket stock and look to be the only seats like this. My Universal Corbeau race seat bracket and all others don’t fir this strange hook system for the bracket.

Re: Spark EV - An affordable electric racecar (my build thread)

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:16 am
by SVTWRC
SVTWRC wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:40 pm
Ok gang , Anyone know if the Planted Race seat bracket for the Chevy Sonic fits the Spark ? I’ve ordered a drivers seat and have Contacted Planted . They have not had a Spark in to match the floor plan but it looks very similar as do the stock brackets of the Sonic and look like the same seats in the base model ! Pretty sure I have everything worked out with the airbag light resistor like done in all race seats that retain use of the airbag system. 2.2 resistor seems to be a match but I am double checking that. Also the seat belt and chime can swap over but not the heated seats unless you hack your stock seats. The point of this would be a quick swap of components for Autocross , drag race , track and then be easily swapped out for the stock seat . Stay tuned the bracket is on the way.
Image video coming soon ! The Planted Technologies race seat bracket for the Chevy Sonic has the correct front hooks but the rear feet need to have a bracket made to fit. Also a relief cut must be made to clear an ECU looking box under the drivers seat. Stay tuned as the seat is well installed and retains the seat belt and electric connection.

Re: Spark EV - An affordable electric racecar (my build thread)

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:10 pm
by SVTWRC
https://youtu.be/tH74pxiV4Mw This install is a full custom mod at your own risk. The Planted bracket needs modification and any good fabricator or shop can install drivers seats for your Chevy Spark Ev and probably the ICE Spark as well. Some info on the measurements are near the end . This method also insures a full swap to the stock seat and back within minutes. The manual was used to remove the seat and to aid in the install. The Front seat mounting bolts tightening torque is 33 ft lbs. Part 2 on the way soon. Enjoy !