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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Chevy Spark EV?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:23 pm 
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nikwax wrote:
colordosparkev wrote:
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1101705_first-drive-chevy-bolt-ev-200-mile-electric-car-development-vehicle?fbfanpage

when i saw this today, i first thought it looked like a next gen Spark! is it just a bit bigger, with 2x the range, and faster acceleration?



quite a bit bigger, about the same acceleration, 200+ mile range, some very interesting technology.


Did you catch the 60 minutes required to quick charge to 80%? It could approach 2 hours if you try to get a full DCFC charge. I believe most charging will be done at home and at night using a 6.6 kWh L2 EVSE. Per Chevy, it takes up to 9 up hours for a full charge at home.


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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Chevy Spark EV?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:26 pm 
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No doubt why VW is floating the idea of 800 volt DCFC :)


More specifically, updating the SAE spec to include 800 volt DCFC.

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Chevy Spark EV?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:29 pm 
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Oh jeeze, this is worrisome: the most recent post was last October.

I was so glad to see the Spark EV anywhere on the right coast when it was announced to be available in Baltimore. I live in NY and I'd certainly drive to MD to buy one.

Last summer searching out prices at a dealership in Ellicot, they even had some low mileage used ones! For about $15k - $17k! I googled directions to Ellicott.

Then did a budget and realized I needed to pay off a few debts first so that around Mar of 2016 I could afford a loan for under $20k.

Today I went to the chevy dealer finder to find 14 of them around the 21201 area. I searched all 14 of them and only found 1 new Spark EV (no used ones) out of all 14 dealers!

Does anyone know why? It seemed like such a sleeper, but maybe suddenly people realized what a bargain it is.


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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Chevy Spark EV?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:37 pm 
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They make Spark EVs in batches, and in low numbers. I waited over three months for mine, and when the Sparks hit town there was a flurry of activity until they were all sold. Word has gotten out as to what a great little car this is (Car & Driver still has it rated #1 non-Tesla EV).

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Chevy Spark EV?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 5:14 pm 
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nikwax wrote:
They make Spark EVs in batches, and in low numbers. I waited over three months for mine, and when the Sparks hit town there was a flurry of activity until they were all sold. Word has gotten out as to what a great little car this is (Car & Driver still has it rated #1 non-Tesla EV).


Great little car it is, and they are hard to find. I wonder if GM really knows this.


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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Chevy Spark EV?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:02 pm 
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I bought the last one my local dealer had at the end of August - then they had none at all until this month, when they got 16 more in. Now they have 6 left, I think (including the lime green, salsa red which I would have taken over the silver one I have in a heartbeat!)

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Chevy Spark EV?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:17 pm 
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ReddyKilowatt wrote:
I bought the last one my local dealer had at the end of August - then they had none at all until this month, when they got 16 more in. Now they have 6 left, I think (including the lime green, salsa red which I would have taken over the silver one I have in a heartbeat!)


Going, going, going - GONE! As soon as word gets out that a dealer has some for lease or sale and, with the great GM lease offer, this car flies out the dealership's door. The word is out - This is a VERY FUN car to drive!


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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Chevy Spark EV?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:46 pm 
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And I live in a semi-isolated part of Oregon (well, as isolated as you can get with I5 going smack through the middle), about 200,000 total population in the entire area. Sparks sell well here. Or at least lease well. I notice they have $139 and $149 a month lease signs on them on the lot. The dealer also still has only their 2015 Volts because the 2016s they got all had preorders.

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Chevy Spark EV?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:34 pm 
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MrDRMorgan wrote:
Great little car it is, and they are hard to find. I wonder if GM really knows this.

I suspect GM knows. They created a little monster! But I think they're limiting SparkEV on purpose to save federal tax credit for Bolt. Between Volt, ELR, SparkEV, they've used up over 100,000 tax credits, and the limit is 200,000. If SparkEV becomes too popular, it could eat up all remaining tax credit even before the first Bolt rolls off the assembly line, making Bolt $7500 more than the competition. More details of my guesses in my blog here.

http://sparkev.blogspot.com/2015/11/spa ... e-car.html

Because of this, it is very possible that SparkEV will be canceled when Bolt comes out. But if there's change in tax, it is possible for them to continue SparkEV, though I doubt that'll happen. Then the situation could be like EV1; people will clamor for more SparkEV, GM refuse to make more.

Of course, these are all just guesses, but saving tax credit is the most logical explanation for Chevy's lack of interest in selling more SparkEV. Demand is certainly there judging from sold out dealer lots.


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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Chevy Spark EV?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 2:02 pm 
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According to
http://insideevs.com/monthly-plug-in-sales-scorecard/

Chevrolet sold 2,629 Sparks in 2015.

According to
http://us7.campaign-archive1.com/?u=994 ... 78867c2845

There were 5,163 PEV cars sold in California in 2015.

Since the Spark is only sold in California, Oregon and Maryland (and anywhere someone is brave enough to buy one and ship it in to), you can bet the bulk of the Sparks sold were sold in California.

The Spark might have a higher adoption rate in Oregon than other states because in 2015 there was no state rebate for the purchase of a PEV (only a small rebate for purchase of an EVSE) nor is there an HOV sticker available and the lower price of the Spark, compared to other PEVs, might have tipped it a bit.

This for a car with virtually no advertising or roll-out drama and supply-caused shortages. Not bad, eh?

Anecdotally, in 2015 here in Oregon the dealers repeatedly sold out of cars and then had to wait until they got their next shipment, indicating that popularity is not the problem, supply is. I took my Spark to an EV show with a dealer brochure and they said they had 7 people - in a town of less than 20,000, green and crunchy though Ashland is - show up at the dealership asking about test drives. That was in September, by that point they were sold out and only got another shipment in in January.

I think the Spark was both a compliance car and a test run for PEVs, we will see what lessons they learned when the do the US rollout of the Bolt.

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