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Jimmy

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looks good for the Chevy Sparks efficiency

DETROIT -- General Motors says its Chevrolet Spark EV will get the equivalent of 119 mpg in combined city and highway driving, the best efficiency of any U.S. car on sale to the public.

The 2014 Spark EV, which will be launched this summer in California and Oregon, will have an EPA-rated range of 82 miles when fully charged, GM said in a statement.


http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130429/OEM11/304299988/chevy-spark-gets-119-mpg-rating#axzz2S0hEhnMQ
 
Jimmy said:
looks good for the Chevy Sparks efficiency

DETROIT -- General Motors says its Chevrolet Spark EV will get the equivalent of 119 mpg in combined city and highway driving, the best efficiency of any U.S. car on sale to the public.

The 2014 Spark EV, which will be launched this summer in California and Oregon, will have an EPA-rated range of 82 miles when fully charged, GM said in a statement.


http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130429/OEM11/304299988/chevy-spark-gets-119-mpg-rating#axzz2S0hEhnMQ

Definitely no surprise, Spark was designed to be cost efficient and I really cannot see a car that is close to Chevy price and efficiency wise witch just may be Chevy's ticket to high sales numbers...
 
McHale said:
Jimmy said:
looks good for the Chevy Sparks efficiency

DETROIT -- General Motors says its Chevrolet Spark EV will get the equivalent of 119 mpg in combined city and highway driving, the best efficiency of any U.S. car on sale to the public.

The 2014 Spark EV, which will be launched this summer in California and Oregon, will have an EPA-rated range of 82 miles when fully charged, GM said in a statement.


http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130429/OEM11/304299988/chevy-spark-gets-119-mpg-rating#axzz2S0hEhnMQ

Definitely no surprise, Spark was designed to be cost efficient and I really cannot see a car that is close to Chevy price and efficiency wise witch just may be Chevy's ticket to high sales numbers...


I also expected this but due to recent trend that all kinds of EV are following I wouldn't be too surprised that Chevy Spark also had smudged numbers that were increased to garner some additional media attention...

luckily the makers of Chevy Spark are smart enough not to do that
 
Jimmy said:
McHale said:
Jimmy said:
looks good for the Chevy Sparks efficiency

DETROIT -- General Motors says its Chevrolet Spark EV will get the equivalent of 119 mpg in combined city and highway driving, the best efficiency of any U.S. car on sale to the public.

The 2014 Spark EV, which will be launched this summer in California and Oregon, will have an EPA-rated range of 82 miles when fully charged, GM said in a statement.


http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130429/OEM11/304299988/chevy-spark-gets-119-mpg-rating#axzz2S0hEhnMQ

Definitely no surprise, Spark was designed to be cost efficient and I really cannot see a car that is close to Chevy price and efficiency wise witch just may be Chevy's ticket to high sales numbers...


I also expected this but due to recent trend that all kinds of EV are following I wouldn't be too surprised that Chevy Spark also had smudged numbers that were increased to garner some additional media attention...

luckily the makers of Chevy Spark are smart enough not to do that

It's kind of surprising seeing all of them toying with the numbers like that, it's like they don't care that it's going to bite them in the ass eventually
 
I also expected this but due to recent trend that all kinds of EV are following I wouldn't be too surprised that Chevy Spark also had smudged numbers that were increased to garner some additional media attention...

luckily the makers of Chevy Spark are smart enough not to do that

It's kind of surprising seeing all of them toying with the numbers like that, it's like they don't care that it's going to bite them in the ass eventually[/quote]

Well it's because it won't bite them actually, when you think about the small number of people that actually know about these being the wrong numbers you slowly begin to realize that they do it because in the end they will be able to put them in car salons with the numbers that are inflated.

And in the end that is what is bringing home the profits
 
Jimmy said:
I also expected this but due to recent trend that all kinds of EV are following I wouldn't be too surprised that Chevy Spark also had smudged numbers that were increased to garner some additional media attention...

luckily the makers of Chevy Spark are smart enough not to do that

It's kind of surprising seeing all of them toying with the numbers like that, it's like they don't care that it's going to bite them in the ass eventually

Well it's because it won't bite them actually, when you think about the small number of people that actually know about these being the wrong numbers you slowly begin to realize that they do it because in the end they will be able to put them in car salons with the numbers that are inflated.

And in the end that is what is bringing home the profits[/quote]

you could be right but I still don't think that is the case with Chevy Spark, I'm more inclined to think that the lack of performance range-wise was more due to the still unreliable electric battery technology rather then GM's marketing schemes.
 
It's kind of surprising seeing all of them toying with the numbers like that, it's like they don't care that it's going to bite them in the ass eventually

Well it's because it won't bite them actually, when you think about the small number of people that actually know about these being the wrong numbers you slowly begin to realize that they do it because in the end they will be able to put them in car salons with the numbers that are inflated.

And in the end that is what is bringing home the profits[/quote]

you could be right but I still don't think that is the case with Chevy Spark, I'm more inclined to think that the lack of performance range-wise was more due to the still unreliable electric battery technology rather then GM's marketing schemes.[/quote]

You could be right about the unpredictability of the batteries, I never thought about it that way but now that I think about it batteries are often overvalued even in smartphones and they pretty much depend on the way you charge them the first couple of times...
 
battery technology still has a couple of years of serious development before it becomes extremely reliable and durable but it's definitely getting there and the number one reason why I'm bullish on EV technology is because batteries are researched on a scale no other technology is even close to.

There are smartphones, there is the car industry and most of all there are the universities like MIT, Berkley and all the others that are making tremendous progress in the EV and solar technology(that is probably going to be closely tied to EV)
 
McHale said:
battery technology still has a couple of years of serious development before it becomes extremely reliable and durable but it's definitely getting there and the number one reason why I'm bullish on EV technology is because batteries are researched on a scale no other technology is even close to.

There are smartphones, there is the car industry and most of all there are the universities like MIT, Berkley and all the others that are making tremendous progress in the EV and solar technology(that is probably going to be closely tied to EV)

And the rewards are huge for whoever first gets the patent on the next big thing, we're talking billions so I'm not surprised that the battle is this heated.
 
Jimmy said:
McHale said:
battery technology still has a couple of years of serious development before it becomes extremely reliable and durable but it's definitely getting there and the number one reason why I'm bullish on EV technology is because batteries are researched on a scale no other technology is even close to.

There are smartphones, there is the car industry and most of all there are the universities like MIT, Berkley and all the others that are making tremendous progress in the EV and solar technology(that is probably going to be closely tied to EV)

And the rewards are huge for whoever first gets the patent on the next big thing, we're talking billions so I'm not surprised that the battle is this heated.

That is right the next "big" battery technology, if patented correctly, will bring a windfall to whomever invents it. But it's not an easy task...
 
I really can't wait to see what is going to come from the next decade with the battery technologies, graphene, stem cell research and nanotechnology we are going to live in an extremely different world ten years from now.
 
I see the Nissan Leaf coming out with 186 mile range in 2017 has anyone heard anything about the Spark getting the same or more.
 
NickM said:
I see the Nissan Leaf coming out with 186 mile range in 2017 has anyone heard anything about the Spark getting the same or more.

GM intends to make the battery about 10% smaller next year, plus the Spark is physically too small really add much more battery anyway.

The Tesla Model S gets the range from a gigantic battery, which requires a large car. The Nissan LEAF has significant room under the car to add battery cells.

Whatever efficiency in cells won't be double by 2017. Incremental, yes.
 
I see the Nissan Leaf coming out with 186 mile range in 2017

Source?



http://www.electric-vehiclenews.com/2014/05/nissan-leaf-with-300-km-range-on-sale.html
 
also ran across this today.Very intresting.

http://sufiy.blogspot.com/2012/02/lithium-game-changer-2014-renault-zoe.html#
 
NickM said:
I see the Nissan Leaf coming out with 186 mile range in 2017

Source?

http://www.electric-vehiclenews.com/2014/05/nissan-leaf-with-300-km-range-on-sale.html
Hmm, hadn't seen that but http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=16707 is discussion on the statement. Haven't had time to read that thread but maybe I should skim it.

Remember that the '13+ Leaf already has a range of "up to 200 km" (or 124 miles) :roll: :lol:. See http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=304180#p304180. That's due to an inflated European test cycle. This is the same Leaf that gets 75 or 84 miles on the EPA test (http://green.autoblog.com/2013/02/21/2013-nissan-leaf-revealed-gets-75-mile-range-actually-84-in-n/ http://insideevs.com/2014-nissan-leaf-mostly-unchanged-as-range-technically-moves-up-to-84-miles/).

Also see http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=17064&hilit=nedc, specifically the PDF of the brochure.
 
if this is all true Spark will have to match or lose its share very quickly,That is where I am heading when my lease runs out. :lol:
 
NickM said:
if this is all true Spark will have to match or lose its share very quickly,That is where I am heading when my lease runs out. :lol:
What share? See http://insideevs.com/monthly-plug-in-sales-scorecard/.

Leaf sales have reached 120K units worldwide: http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/NEWS/2014/_STORY/140623-02-e.html
 
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