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Re: 14 months of ownership starting to regret Owning a sparkev

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:49 am
by ElDobro
I did a lot of research here before buying and after 14 months, no regrets. :D

Re: 14 months of ownership starting to regret Owning a sparkev

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:48 am
by LiLspark
NORTON wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:27 am
LiLspark wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:27 pm
... From no longer have a 110 outlet to charge and now the dealer limiting charging,
... nobody has addressed except for 1 YouTuber.
...Driving the car 1 mile resulted in 11 miles used driving 15 MPH!!!
.... because the reliability of this stupid car is compromised.
... I don't use the heater or my heated seats I take the beating of the cold weather and yet im rewarded with range loss galore.
>Are you saying you can't plug in at home? And you own an EV?

>Youtubers are a serious source of info?

>If the car was not plugged in and you started it up in Cold Conditions, it is using max power to the TMS to warm that battery pack, as designed.
The energy usage can be viewed on the energy 'leaf' page. It probably showed more 'Battery Conditioning' than 'Drive Power' for that drive you described.
The Guess-O-Meter is not a measurement of power used, the energy page shows that in kWh. That's how EV's display and/or guess at things.

>I think you mean 'range' is compromised, not reliability.

>If you plug in overnight and during cold weather, use Cabin Preconditioning and all the seat heat and cabin heat you want,, you'll enjoy this car a lot more. No need to suffer. 8-)

Mine works great in much colder conditions than you are experiencing,,,,, I'll bet... :cry:
But then, I plug in at home and at work during the 'Dead of Winter'.
In the warm weather, I only plug in once a day at a Free Public L2. ~50 mile round trip. Life is good! This chitty little EV suits my needs perfectly!
Hi Norton See my comment above about living at a place for 6+ years that had a 110v outlet.

youuber is this dude https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ1gSbFqVSo j mcphink

no more plugging overnight as the dealer will have my crap towed at my expense!!! so hustle my ass and walk home from the dealer to charge this damn car. this car is definitely going uo for sale once I start saving up to get another used car.

Re: 14 months of ownership starting to regret Owning a sparkev

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:05 am
by thinksmall
I live in Portland Oregon and drive a 2016 with 22,300 miles showing 15.8 battery capacity on Torque Pro and can't charge at home and my Spark sits outside all the time. I use DCFC charge stations which are pretty numerous here. The Walmart a mile away has two evgo chargers and hardly anyone ever uses them so I can charge while doing my grocery shopping. I usually charge to 80% and see 65 miles on the GOM in the summer and around 52 this time of year. Temps here are in the high 30s at night and mid to high 40s during the day. I have never seen anything other than zero percent conditioning. When I fast charge the battery heaters come on for the first part of the charge this time of year but I have never seen them come on when not plugged in. If I am low on charge I just stop at a DCFC and in 10 minutes I am on my way again. I have a gas Kia Soul as a backup or for long trips.

Does your car have DCFS? If not you are screwed till you find a place to charge as the spark onboard charger is a bit pathetic. Yes, I have to pay for the charging but it is less than running my gas car. I didn't buy the Spark to save money. Loosing 11 miles of range in one mile at 15 mph seems like something is wrong with the car. I have gotten in the car at 7:30 in the morning and had to run the defroster for 5 minutes to clear the ice from the windshield , then driven 6 miles in city traffic and only used about 10 miles of range. LA should be the perfect place for an EV. You might want to get Torque Pro and check your battery capacity. I just got it working. The app is $5 and I use a blue tooth OBD reader I bought on ebay for $5.99 including shipping from the US. I use the Bolt PDIs. Good luck and I hope things work out for you.

Re: 14 months of ownership starting to regret Owning a sparkev

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:34 pm
by didget69
Sounds like you may not have been a savvy consumer.

bnc

Re: 14 months of ownership starting to regret Owning a sparkev

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:05 am
by ElDobro
LiLspark wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:48 am
NORTON wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:27 am
LiLspark wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:27 pm
... From no longer have a 110 outlet to charge and now the dealer limiting charging,
... nobody has addressed except for 1 YouTuber.
...Driving the car 1 mile resulted in 11 miles used driving 15 MPH!!!
.... because the reliability of this stupid car is compromised.
... I don't use the heater or my heated seats I take the beating of the cold weather and yet im rewarded with range loss galore.
>Are you saying you can't plug in at home? And you own an EV?

>Youtubers are a serious source of info?

>If the car was not plugged in and you started it up in Cold Conditions, it is using max power to the TMS to warm that battery pack, as designed.
The energy usage can be viewed on the energy 'leaf' page. It probably showed more 'Battery Conditioning' than 'Drive Power' for that drive you described.
The Guess-O-Meter is not a measurement of power used, the energy page shows that in kWh. That's how EV's display and/or guess at things.

>I think you mean 'range' is compromised, not reliability.

>If you plug in overnight and during cold weather, use Cabin Preconditioning and all the seat heat and cabin heat you want,, you'll enjoy this car a lot more. No need to suffer. 8-)

Mine works great in much colder conditions than you are experiencing,,,,, I'll bet... :cry:
But then, I plug in at home and at work during the 'Dead of Winter'.
In the warm weather, I only plug in once a day at a Free Public L2. ~50 mile round trip. Life is good! This chitty little EV suits my needs perfectly!
Hi Norton See my comment above about living at a place for 6+ years that had a 110v outlet.

youuber is this dude https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ1gSbFqVSo j mcphink

no more plugging overnight as the dealer will have my crap towed at my expense!!! so hustle my ass and walk home from the dealer to charge this damn car. this car is definitely going uo for sale once I start saving up to get another used car.
McPhink bought another Spark EV.

Re: 14 months of ownership starting to regret Owning a sparkev

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:44 am
by Kermit
Another silver one at that, and he's selling his Volt. Interesting choice!

Re: 14 months of ownership starting to regret Owning a sparkev

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:22 am
by didget69
Still have our 2015 Spark EV, now with 25k miles & still getting minimum 85 miles of range...

Stays plugged in all the time when parked, typically Level 1 home & daily 8-9 hours on Level 2 at office. Used DCFC 14x since car purchased in 2016.

Bryan in NC

Re: 14 months of ownership starting to regret Owning a sparkev

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:27 am
by NORTON
didget69 wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:22 am
...Stays plugged in all the time when parked, ....& daily 8-9 hours on Level 2 at office. ...
You hog an L2 for 8-9 hrs a day???

Not proper EV Etiquette. :(

My method is to plug in at noon at work and it is usually done around 3:30 - 4 and then move it away from the L2 when I get the txt from Chargepoint. Then I'll leave work around 5.

In the summer I only charge once a day.
So the car is at Full Charge for about 1-2 hrs a day. I only charge at a Free L2 near my work.

I find my car runs best on free electrons ! :D
Plus there is the theory that it's best to limit time at 100%. At least that's how newer EV's are doing it with allowing it to only charge to 80% when not needed.

Re: 14 months of ownership starting to regret Owning a sparkev

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:27 am
by didget69
Two L2 charging spots located inside gated business facility, no other EVs on site...

Car also has hanger tag with cell number listed, plus Security guards know how to reach me in extremely rare instance that another EV comes to town... No calls in 3+ years .

And I'm the guy that does practice proper EV etiquette...

Bryan

Re: 14 months of ownership starting to regret Owning a sparkev

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:30 am
by MrDRMorgan
I found this thread to be quite interesting; especially in view of my most recent experience. Last weekend, my wife and I drove to our daughter's home in Roseville, CA - a trip of about 85 miles one way. It was a hot day so the AC was on from the start. I have made this trip before so I know where the "Spark EV friendly" DCFC charging stations are located.

Stop #1: Laguna Village in Elk Grove: could not initialize and charge on 3 of the 4 EA chargers. The fourth was occupied by another car. Drove back to Walmart in Elk Grove. 2 of 3 EA chargers had a dead screen. I was able to charge at the one working charger. Note: I have charged at both locations many times without any problems.

Stop #2: Walmart in North Highland, CA. Could not charge on one EA charger but did charge on another.

Stop #3: Parking garage in the City of Roseville: charged for 2 hours on a ChargePoint L2 charger without any problems and it was free.

Stop #4: Back to Walmart in North Highland - same charger worked without any problem.

Stop #5: EVgo DCFC in Galt, CA. This charger has always worked for me.

My point is this: Unlike a gasoline station where you can always fuel up, there is no guarantee you will be able to charge at every charging location along your route. PlugShare helps weed out the "dead" chargers - but not always. In Manteca, CA where I live, free ChargePoint L2 charging stations are just starting to become available. But, at 3 KWh per hour, I would have to park the car, start charging and either sit in the car for an hour or two or walk home and back again. The two closest DCFCs (EVgo) are 10 and 11 miles from my home and they are not always working.

I have both an L1 and L2 EVSE in my garage so charging overnight works just fine for both my 2014 and 2016 Spark EVs. But, out-of-town travel in my 2016 Spark EV, that requires one or more DCFC charging stops each way, is still is a BIG concern for me.