MrDRMorgan
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Re: Electrify America Charging Station Problems

Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:09 pm

DarthMuffin wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:07 pm
Has anyone tried one of these at an EA station? I have printed one and can confirm it fits the spark, but have no EA station nearby.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3862271
This adapter would be interesting to try on a Spark EV. I am able to charge my 2016 Spark EV at EA 150 kw stations but it is necessary to support the weight of the handle / cable until the initialization process completes and the car's horn honks indicating the charging process has started.

ElDobro
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Re: Electrify America Charging Station Problems

Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:15 am

I ran across this on YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lAFLpxcgk4

Engineear
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Re: Electrify America Charging Station Problems

Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:39 am

Cool tip. If I have a need for speed charging and one of these are near me in Mesa AZ, I will remember this. Thanks!

MrDRMorgan
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Re: Electrify America Charging Station Problems

Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:57 am

ElDobro wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:15 am
I ran across this on YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lAFLpxcgk4
Yep! This is EXACTLY how you make it work. Also, some of the power cables do not allow you to "easily" align the plug with the socket in the car without some serious "twisting" too.

How and where you park your Spark EV when making the connection affects how much you have to twist the plug to get it inserted into the car's socket. This seems to vary from charger to charger.

Randy960
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Re: Electrify America Charging Station Problems

Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:15 pm

I was poking around on Plugshare the other day, and it looks like nearly every EA station in the Northeast uses Efacec chargers. A fix would be great, because there's actually enough chargers around to travel a bit, even in a Spark.

ElectricAdventure
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Re: Electrify America Charging Station Problems

Tue May 05, 2020 8:31 am

I just saw this thread and thought I might be able to add some information to it.

On April 2nd 2019 I had a successful charge on an ABB unit in Salt Lake City with a 2015 Spark EV. According to my reliability spreadsheet it took one try on a random unit within the station. On June 12th, a few days after the app launched I think, the entire unit stopped working on my vehicle. On June 2nd after taking a really long drive (more than 80 miles non-freeway driving) I rolled into the Scipio EA supercharger with 1% battery. After L1 charging for 40 minutes I had a successful charge (I did this because of the weird faults I get when trying to do a 400v charge with less than 8% battery). When I went to the Beaver UT charger it ended up not working. All of the units above are ABB. I ended up going back to the Scipio supercharger and trying two different Spark EVs (three total if you include my Spark EV) and I think I even used a Bolt at one point. All failed except for the one off time I mentioned and the Bolt EV worked (I don't remember all of the charges, I have a reliability spreadsheet where detailed notes in of all my charging experiences are put). I also tried the Brigham City Supercharger which is an EA ABB station on December 5 of 2019 and it failed. There are 22 ABB supercharging units in Utah and I have charged at all of them except for the ones going in at Green River, Salina and Richfield and seldom had any issue with any of the cars I have charged (eGolfs, i3s, Bolts, Sparks, LEAFs).


What I am trying to say is that this seems to be an issue with a software update that bricked Spark EVs- it isn't hardware. I know the SAE CCS sockets on Chevy products are crap, but that doesn't stop the Signet charger in Spanish Fork from working with Chevys when I don't lift up the cable. At one point I could use ABB EA superchargers with no issues, was this the same for anyone else?

ElectricAdventure
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Re: Electrify America Charging Station Problems

Tue May 05, 2020 8:58 am

Its pretty outdated, but here is a small sample of EA charging sessions I have had. I haven't been driving nearly as much as I used to now that I live in the city and don't need a car anymore. I used the Spanish Fork Super one other time that isn't listed on this spreadsheet, it was successful on first try with random unit.

Image

https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipO ... shZKUXwKB7


On further inspection I realized that my spreadsheet that outlines charger manufacture is a little outdated, we had 10 new chargers go in in the past 20 days and I've been lazy and hadn't done a full recount. There should be 71 units instead of 67 I think.

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Re: Electrify America Charging Station Problems

Tue May 05, 2020 2:35 pm

Since California "shut down", I haven't had to drive to Oakland and, therefore, have not needed to use the ABB chargers along my route that were installed by Electrify America. But.... in every case where I did charge at an EA location populated with ABB chargers, I had to lift (support) the handle and heavy cable until initialization was completed and the car's horn honked. Then I could release the handle and charging progressed normally. Initialization failed 100% on those occasions where I did not support the handle during initialization. Supporting the handle seems to only be necessary with ABB chargers.

Randy960
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Re: Electrify America Charging Station Problems

Fri May 08, 2020 6:13 am

So the weather has warmed up enough (plus an endless amount of free time) that I had the range to go try the next closest EA station in Fredonia, NY. They are also Efacec units like the location closer to me. I tried all four with no success (and then doused myself with sanitizer and went home).

MrDRMorgan
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Re: Electrify America Charging Station Problems

Sat May 09, 2020 10:05 am

Randy960 wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 6:13 am
So the weather has warmed up enough (plus an endless amount of free time) that I had the range to go try the next closest EA station in Fredonia, NY. They are also Efacec units like the location closer to me. I tried all four with no success (and then doused myself with sanitizer and went home).
Did you try supporting the handle and heavy cable during the initialization process until the car's horn honked? That seems to be the only way to get the EA ABB chargers to work for a Spark EV. I have never seen or used an Efacec charger so I do not know if what I suggested will work or not. But, it is worth a try.

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