gra said:
TonyWilliams said:
gra said:
Just to be complete, there are also 700+ SCs in the U.S., something over 400 CCS-2 in Europe, and 20+ CCS-1 in the U.S. and Canada. There are maybe 5 eVgo CCS-1 or dual mode chargers shown on Plugshare as 'coming soon' in California.
I'm not sure how to count Superchargers. Is it 700... or 120+ stations?
Both, really. With a couple of exceptions, CHAdeMOs have all been installed singly. I think there's a dual/dual CHAdeMO/CCS in SoCal somewhere and a few multiples in Europe, but no company other than Tesla has been willing to recognize that multiple QCs per location are far more valuable than single QCs in more locations.
Some of the new NRG eVgo Freedom stations now consist of 1 http://nissanqc.com/ CHAdeMO DC FC + 1 dual-standard ABB CHAdeMO + Combo1 DC FC, along w/an L2 (?).
Nashco said:
cwerdna said:
I and others have gone over this over and over again.
Despite nobody asking for the information!!! Don't you ever get tired of hearing your own voice? We hear you banging your drum, but it's so tedious and tired.
Nobody asked for your thoughts on this either. I could say the same about your posts. EVs and PHEVs don't live in a vacuum. There are 3 DC FC standards in the US and it's important that people know what they're getting and what's available for whatever they choose/deciding between. Suppression of information doesn't help that.
Someone w/a Spark EV at my work recently emailed me thinking that the Tesla HPWCs (http://shop.teslamotors.com/products/high-power-wall-connector) installed at work were Tesla "Superchargers"... They are not, but rather L2 EVSEs w/up to 80 amp output (depending on the circuit they're installed on) w/a Tesla proprietary connector instead of a J1772 handle.
Nashco said:
Based on your comments, it sounds like you should be spending some time helping those ignorant about DC fast chargers learn the difference between the standards. Tell people about Plugshare.
I have. I've discussed this MANY times w/people interested in or considering EVs/PHEVs. I've emailed and discussed this subject w/facilities people at my work and the EV valets (who were also confused about Tesla "Superchargers"). They had considered installing DC FCs. I suggested they not bother but if they were to do so (based on the vehicles our employees have) to install a CHAdeMO DC FC or at least 1 dual-standard CHAdeMO + Combo1 DC FC. I've told them about the lousy reliability of http://nissanqc.com/ (and associated required air filter cleaning) and general unreliability and downtime of the CHAdeMO DC FCs in the area. The list goes on... too much to list.
And yes, I tell people about Plugshare all the time. I sometimes leave a Plugshare sticker on my dash. I have pinned up a Plugshare sticker at my cubicle at work. I sometimes wear my Plugshare hat.
If you don't like my posts, you can ignore them or add me as a foe.
nozferatu said:
I've yet to hear Spark EV owners complain about their charging and plug and station issues.
There most definitely are, at least on Plugshare, but admittedly, mostly from one guy. Maybe he's a user here... Here are a few examples I found.
From http://api.plugshare.com/view/location/51792
joel a month ago
Chevy Spark EV CANNOT BE REILIABLY CHARGED HERE. fifth and final try. after waiting 35 seconds each time, I still get an error message.
joel a month ago
third try in a row. message reads, CHARGING FINISHED again, still not charged. trying again
http://api.plugshare.com/view/location/8428
19 days ago
caroline, yep! that's what ive been saying! but when I call to find out if it's working they have in the past told me it is. so drove there only to find it isnt then had to spend an hour or more at the L2 charger to get just enough juice to make it home, not to continue my work. they say they're going to fix it though. my fingers are crossed. this is a great resource when it works and isnt taken up by a line of leafs. btw, leaf drivers, when this place is working again fir us SAE people, please park on either of the side stalls. we need the middle stall to reach our cars. thanks!
Caroline 19 days ago
SAE combo isn't working. Called and the issue is the cable.
joel 20 days ago
The chademo always works. It figures. you leaf drivers are in good hands. I, however, am driving one experimental EV with hardly a charge station in sight being the only one in the region is down. it seems they only put charge stations in super remote locations where not needed such as atwater and point reyes. if they only had one in the metropolitain area of SF or Oakland it would serve so many thousands of drivers and would be used regularly wether free or 3 to 5$ a charge.
joel 21 days ago
apparently the unit being reset is not enough to get it working this time. btw, there should be an auto reset on a timer that perhaps resets the system 4x daily. but I think the problem now is a lack of electrical connection. can someone with a spark or i3 be so kind as to go back and test the station periodically to see if it works? I live too far and would need to use the majority of my battery just getting there.
joel 22 days ago
this is really pissing me off. can I just pay someone parts and labor to repair the shify computer or charging handle that has an issue? im losing so much time and money because of this.
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joel 23 days ago
is it working again for sparks and bmws?
joel 23 days ago
SAE COMBO OUT AGAIN DUE TO COMPUTER CRASH. PLEASE RESET! IM STUCK HERE!
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joel a month ago
PLEASE if you have a LEAF, extend the courtesy of leaving the middle space open for the Spark EV, or BMW i3 as it is the only space where our vehicles can reach the charger. The leaf can reach the charger from ANY space.
joel a month ago
after about 6 tries and fijiting with the pins inside the connector i was able to start. the SAE plug definitely needs servicing.
http://api.plugshare.com/view/location/57304
12 hours ago
how long will it be to fix the SAE? It's the only one in my area! shame it went out just after opening.
"was - " joel a day ago
SAE COMBO
joel 8 days ago
why no SAE COMBO? DO WE NOT MATTER? This is a brand new station and sae combo has been out for a long time and the east bay still doesn't have one. we dont need any more CHADEMO in the east bay. there are already plenty. I can't believe a new station would come up that does not include tge American standard fast charger. only japanese.
There are TONS of BMW i3 folks on the i3 Facebook group in the US wanting DC FCs. And at least every few weeks, we see someone confused not realizing that CHAdeMO isn't compatible w/their non-Japanese market i3, often mentioning a Nissan dealer and/or posting a pic of the CHAdeMO connector.
If those above folks had a CHAdeMO or Tesla Supercharger compatible vehicle, they'd have at least more stations to choose from. And, for the latter, it seems the chances of finding one working are pretty good.
