Request for comment: ICED, Leafed, Leaf*cker

[SparkevBlogspot]

....Remember, nearly every single person you encounter is driving their first EV, .... They don't know the details of the charging equipment, ..., different fast charging standards in use, ...

It may be their first EV, but they're seasoned fast chargers as many drive Leaf from years ago. I try to educate them, but it's not possible when the driver is away. Some (many) just ignore that Leaf is charging at 2kW using 50kW charger, and that switching to L2 would be just as quick for them. Waiting for hours and hours (and hours and ...) got me so frustrated that I wrote the blog post to make the problem be known. It's mainly free charging that's causing problems.

http://sparkev.blogspot.com/2015/10/fre ... sucks.html

But I also have blog post to educate Leaf DCFC users.

http://sparkev.blogspot.com/2015/10/lov ... users.html

Being SparkEV blog, I don't know how many read it. But some Leaf drivers helped me get the data so other Leaf drivers can benefit not only for optimal charging, but also to save money when free charging eventually expire. 2 years, dear lord, that seems like forever...

[NORTON]

....Being SparkEV blog, I don't know how many read it. ...

So go to Leaf Forums and other EV forums and pitch your b**ch and post your links.

Maybe you can find others that don't love free electrons.

[SparkevBlogspot]

So go to Leaf Forums and other EV forums and pitch your b**ch and post your links. Maybe you can find others that don't love free electrons.

I did. That's how I got others to help with Leaf data.

As for free, there is no such thing. In case of "free" charging, all those who use DCFC pay as extra waiting that wouldn't be without "free", sometimes significantly so. Those of us who pay money to DCFC pay "double" as waiting time + money as well.

[Planerench]

I comprehend your frustration. What you have to realize is this is predictable human nature. Free will come to an end and fate will favor the frugal. Imagine the lesson learned the first time the electric bill comes for the first dc charge! No words can burn like a bill!

[NORTON]

...As for free, there is no such thing. In case of "free" charging, all those who use DCFC pay as extra waiting that wouldn't be without "free", ...

I don't know guys....
I'm approaching 40k miles of my ownership and according to my extensive calculations it has been FREE, mostly.
(I feel sorry for my battery in the dead of winter and plug in at home overnight. That cost me $34 one winter season. . I need to figure out how to get the TMS without the charge...

Twice I pulled into a DCFC, which I only use on weekends (if needed) and during airport runs, and found it occupied.
Once with a Tesla, so I moved on to the next one and once with a Leaf, so I moved on to the next one. Not a problem in my town.

I mostly got this +$1000 in savings, (versus buying electrons at home), at an L2 across the street from where I work.
My car ownership costs are going down daily. How can that not be a good thing?

Of course living in EV heaven helps. +1000 L2's (6.6kW) and 15 combo DCFC units!!
https://www.kcpl.com/about-kcpl/environ ... ge-network

[Porsche]

So there's a big shopping mall near me on Long Island with six free level 2 chargers (three stations, two per station). The terms are: charge for free, but limited to two hours. Usually, most of the chargers are available, so, get a quick top-off while shopping, or watching a movie at the theater. Last weekend, I guess because it was black-cyber-sale-of-a-lifetime weekend, every charger was in use. I park two cars away from, I don't remember what kind of car, but not a Tesla or a Chevy. The car's sitting there, plugged in, not charging; the two hours of free charging have already elapsed, shut down automatically. I'm a little frustrated, but hey, I understand, you don't need to hold a vigil next to your car while it's charging, and they'd probably be back soon. I do some shopping, come back maybe an hour later, and the same car is in the spot, this time, during another active charging session that they started while I was away. OK, I guess I'm a little miffed now, but... I didn't leave a note... I didn't key their car. It turns out that when I parked two cars away, I chatted with the driver who just arrived in the single space between us. Maybe I could have swapped spaces, unplugged the offending driver and plugged in after his first charge was already completed, buuut, didn't. I'm sure the other driver didn't drive around the mall, see all the spots were filled and thought, "aha, I'm gonna hog this charger all day! hahahaaaa." I'm sure he didn't see the Spark two spaces away and either way, I wasn't by my car then. In the big scheme of things, I guess I had to spend an extra fifty cents of electricity at home that day.