AbelGoddard
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Re: Fake noise maker

Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:31 am

Good to know about the DCFC, although there are 2 reasons I'm not tremendously concerned about that. 1, I'm in Dallas, and I don't even know where I'd find one of those chargers here (of course I use PlugShare when necessary). 2, more importantly, I don't think the car I'm buying has the option for it.

I've found a couple of the 'Suggestion' threads, and those are very informative also.

MrDRMorgan
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Re: Fake noise maker

Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:38 am

SparkevBlogspot wrote:
AbelGoddard wrote:but overall I haven't found anything (besides this noise issue) that qualifies as a design problem that people are just dealing with.
There is one issue, and that's DCFC socket. See this blog post.

http://sparkev.blogspot.com/2015/09/sol ... harge.html

There are other minor things, like temperature showing Celsius most times and randomly showing Fahrenheit. Others mention reverting to 8A L1 charger setting as annoyance, though I think that's a safety feature. You can't do much about those.
This may be old info, but for those who do not know, the problem of the display switching to deg. C when you set it to deg. F can be corrected by a software update by the dealer. I had this problem with my 2014 Spark EV and, after the software update, I no longer had the problem - OK for 3 years now.

electrohawk
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Re: Fake noise maker

Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:14 pm

I am not sure that this has ever been fully resolved from reading the comments.

Info wise, this is the location of the unit, if you wanted to repair/replace it.
If for off road use only, you could probably put a load resistor in the place of this and have the fuse in and not have any warning lights. This would maybe take a pound or 2 off your overall weight.

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AbelGoddard
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Re: Fake noise maker

Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:27 pm

I did pull the fuse on mine, and have had no warning lights. But I need to research what software update fixes the C/F issue. I took my car to a dealer last week but he said there's one recall listed for my car that doesn't seem to have anything to do with the fan running all the time or the software update for the C/F and 12/8 changes.

SparkevBlogspot
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Re: Fake noise maker

Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:31 pm

electrohawk wrote:I am not sure that this has ever been fully resolved from reading the comments.
The very first post describes a way to disable it by removing the fuse labeled PFAF. But it is good to know where the actual unit is located so I'll know to remove the damn thing next time I'm in the area.
AbelGoddard wrote:I did pull the fuse on mine, and have had no warning lights.
Pulling the fuse won't cause warning lights but disconnecting it under the radio will. Not sure if disconnecting + pulling fuse will cause warning lights. Resistor may work, though that will need some experiments to see what value is best.

NORTON
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Re: Fake noise maker

Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:55 am

AbelGoddard wrote:... I ADORE being able to drive so quietly and have, on purpose, snuck up on a few people (as a joke). Hearing that the Spark has a built in noisemaker is disturbing, ...
That's SO funny! Did you ask your victims which is more disturbing, the 'noisemaker' or YOU?

Peeps, it's the future of EV's.
Get used to it and play by the rules. (Would you encourage your kids to break the rules?)

Whistle a happy tune until you get above 19 MPH. Maybe that will help with your "Sens-A-Tive ears".

This car is a noisy S-Box at speed. How do your Sens A Tive ears handle that?

Turn the radio up, or use earplugs, or both! That's how I roll. I'm saving my Sens A Tive ears for more important things.
Used '14 2LT w/ DCFC. +71 K miles.
Mostly free charging! Only one LONG visit to the shop....
GM needs Modern Troubleshooting tools for Modern EV's.
3 step Trouble Tree, 2nd guess not covered by warranty and cost $800. 3rd guess fixed the problem.

SparkevBlogspot
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Re: Fake noise maker

Fri Sep 29, 2017 5:41 am

NORTON wrote:Get used to it and play by the rules.
Norton is right. Always play by the rules and never exceed the speed limit even if everyone else is whizzing past you. I was once at a broken traffic light stuck in red for 3 days, and nearly starved/dehydrated to death. /sarcasm

If everyone obeyed all the rules, we'd be practically extinct by now, or at the very least unable to get out of the house in order to study the billions of rules (laws) that are already on the books and billions more being added every year. It is American to break stupid rules; after all, that's how this country was founded.

MrDRMorgan
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Re: Fake noise maker

Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:26 am

AbelGoddard wrote:I did pull the fuse on mine, and have had no warning lights. But I need to research what software update fixes the C/F issue. I took my car to a dealer last week but he said there's one recall listed for my car that doesn't seem to have anything to do with the fan running all the time or the software update for the C/F and 12/8 changes.
I too had the deg. C / deg. F problem in my 2015 Spark EV. Have your dealer look up bulletin PI457 DOC ID 4109861. This is a software update and it fixed the problem.

AbelGoddard
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Re: Fake noise maker

Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:46 am

NORTON wrote:(Would you encourage your kids to break the rules?)
Yes I would. And do. Rules that don't make sense are stupid. I encourage my daughter - and everyone - to think about things. Why do this? Why say that? What would happen if I...? Accept that actions have consequences and be ready to answer for your actions.

As to my sensitive ears - yeah, I've discovered that the Spark is not nearly as quiet as I would prefer. But I'm going to make it as quiet as I can, and usually that means driving fairly slowly. That's my solution for now, everyone has to deal with their own problems their own way.

NORTON
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Re: Fake noise maker

Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:59 am

AbelGoddard wrote:... the Spark is not nearly as quiet as I would prefer. ..
There are lots of ear plug styles that drop the db's in your ears a lot and they don't cost much.
Save your hearing now so you can hear what your grankids 'think about things'!
With loud noises, it's use it and lose it.

Defeating 'Safety Systems' is fair game for all?

What about 'Emission Systems' ? Every man for himself? VW did nothing wrong? Condone those kids 'Rolling Coal' in their diesels because "Free Thinking" is good?

Whatever, you guys know you can't hear that goofy LITTLE noise once you are above ~5 mph.
Used '14 2LT w/ DCFC. +71 K miles.
Mostly free charging! Only one LONG visit to the shop....
GM needs Modern Troubleshooting tools for Modern EV's.
3 step Trouble Tree, 2nd guess not covered by warranty and cost $800. 3rd guess fixed the problem.

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