davidbike
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Re: Aftermarket speakers?

Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:54 pm

I just spoke to Crutchfield and - as I’m sure is known - they did not have recommendations specifically for my 2015 Spark EV. But based on the 2015 gas Spark, they recommended I replace all four speakers with Polk Audio DB402 models. They said they should easily go in the front, and that I would have to make a bracket for the rear speakers. Total cost with speakers, harnesses, and a universal plastic panel came to about $110. — Any opinion using these Polk speakers as the replacements for better sound?

TheLondonBroiler
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Re: Aftermarket speakers?

Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:25 pm

davidbike wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:54 pm
— Any opinion using these Polk speakers as the replacements for better sound?
Polk makes decent stuff for the money (at least they were 4 years ago when I left the install scene).

If your expectations are reasonable, you should be content. 4" & 4x6 speakers with no enclosure will only sound so good.
2015 Spark EV w/ DCFC 46,XXX miles
Purchased 1/20/18 w/ 16,5XX miles
2019 Bolt EV w/ DCFC 6,XXX miles
Purchased 3/16/19 w/ 87 miles

wiseguyz23
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Re: Aftermarket speakers?

Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:58 pm

Man, reading through this I'm finding several different things. Ohms are important, but not really. Size of the speaker is important but not really. Just get as close to the original as possible and see how it goes.

I've been looking at speakers since I've gotten the car a week or so ago but having a hard time pulling the trigger. It seems that just getting the right size and don't go overboard on the watts should do the trick. I'm also looking at possibly putting in those baffles in may help with the rear bass response... then again I heard that they won't.

lol What is up with this car and the audio system? Bah. I may end up taking it in to a local place and just having them dump some upgrades into it but I'd rather just put the speakers in myself as it'll be much cheaper.

davidbike
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Re: Aftermarket speakers?

Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:38 am

I bought 4" Polk speakers all around from Crutchfield and they guided me on installing them (the only tricky part involved making a bracket needed to install the rear speakers - luckily my neighbor was skilled in using a jigsaw). The result was far more clearer sound, though unimpressive bass and the treble is over-bright. At some point when I get time I'll work with adjusting the tones to try to get a more pleasing sound.

So to sum it up: doing this without the installation of an amp and subwoofer resulted in much better sound (it no longer sounds muffled), but it could certainly be better.

TheLondonBroiler
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Re: Aftermarket speakers?

Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:43 am

wiseguyz23 wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:58 pm
Ohms are important, but not really. Size of the speaker is important but not really. Just get as close to the original as possible

right size and don't go overboard on the watts should do the trick. I'm also looking at possibly putting in those baffles in may help with the rear bass response... then again I heard that they won't.
If powering speakers from the factory indash, the replacement speakers should be between 4&8 ohms. Will you have a problem with 2 ohm or 10 ohm speakers? Maybe, maybe not. The further you stray away, the more likely problems are to occur (fortunately most all automotive replacement speakers are 4 ohm) As far as size constraints are concerned, anything different than the original will require a bracket or EXTREME modification. Sure aftermarket manufacturer product sizes vary for a certain segment (ie 4" speaker), but it's generally very small variances that don't cause fitment issues.

People generally think a speaker capable of handling more power is a more desirable speaker (ie a 200 watt speaker is better than a 100 watt speaker). Two things worth mentioning, don't look at the max rating, rather the RMS rating (if that rating isn't readily visible/available, move along). Additionally, a speaker capable of higher
rms power, ACTUALLY NEEDS THAT POWER to achieve peak performance. With our Spark, like most oem head unit amplifiers, power output doesn't exceed Watt figures in the teens, so a lower rated speaker isn't a worse choice.

Regarding baffles.... a speaker "works better" in a WELL DESIGNED enclosure (does a much better job producing lower frequencies). Putting a baffle on, may or may not improve sound quality/frequency range.
wiseguyz23 wrote: lol What is up with this car and the audio system? Bah. I may end up taking it in to a local place and just having them dump some upgrades into it but I'd rather just put the speakers in myself as it'll be much cheaper.
Fortunately or unfortunately, the Spark is a sub compact economy car. There's no practical place for large audio components, and GM wasn't putting out to design a system capable of delivering a full range of sound.

I'd put some speakers in myself and save the cost of labor. Then maybe decide if it's good enough, or whether a subwoofer is necessary (hopefully just a small enclosed & powered deal is all you "need", to get desirable sound).
2015 Spark EV w/ DCFC 46,XXX miles
Purchased 1/20/18 w/ 16,5XX miles
2019 Bolt EV w/ DCFC 6,XXX miles
Purchased 3/16/19 w/ 87 miles

wiseguyz23
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Re: Aftermarket speakers?

Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:22 am

Good points. I'll most likely end up getting a few sets of good quality speakers and possibly put in a little 100-200 watt amp to boost the power. I'll also probably get one of the little subs that fit under the seat.

Anyone know if the stereo runs off the 12v battery or the EV batteries?

SVTWRC
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Re: Aftermarket speakers?

Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:11 pm

Hello everyone. Here is my upgrade on Youtube https://youtu.be/1WDpTiDviTw My whole goal was to match the Ohm more than the watts. Did not go with anything fancy but here it is. Recorded using a Zoom H1 in various conditions ,driving etc.. The sound is cleaner and it can actually be turned past 20 without distorting so bad it breaks up. The new speakers handle the gain and you can adjust the EQ and front to rear. Like to put the bias toward the rear just a bit to help with the bass in the front , they really are quite nice. Really enjoying this as it’s my first EV . Thanks

wiseguyz23
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Re: Aftermarket speakers?

Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:10 pm

SVTWRC wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:11 pm
Hello everyone. Here is my upgrade on Youtube https://youtu.be/1WDpTiDviTw My whole goal was to match the Ohm more than the watts. Did not go with anything fancy but here it is. Recorded using a Zoom H1 in various conditions ,driving etc.. The sound is cleaner and it can actually be turned past 20 without distorting so bad it breaks up. The new speakers handle the gain and you can adjust the EQ and front to rear. Like to put the bias toward the rear just a bit to help with the bass in the front , they really are quite nice. Really enjoying this as it’s my first EV . Thanks
I've actually watched both yours and Josh's videos multiple time. I really appreciate that someone's out there giving us some info. Question, though. What brand/model did you get for both from and back? I see the Pyle, but which model specifically? Thanks!

SVTWRC
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Re: Aftermarket speakers?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:09 am

Rear - Pyle PL463Blue Label 240watt 4ohm $20 EBay
Front - Faital Pro 4FE35 60Watt 8ohm $40 EBay
Nothing Fancy but The $ was worth the experiment as my friends have spend hundreds before and the system sounds worse than stock.

SVTWRC
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Re: Aftermarket speakers?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:52 am

wiseguyz23 wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:10 pm
SVTWRC wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:11 pm
Hello everyone. Here is my upgrade on Youtube https://youtu.be/1WDpTiDviTw My whole goal was to match the Ohm more than the watts. Did not go with anything fancy but here it is. Recorded using a Zoom H1 in various conditions ,driving etc.. The sound is cleaner and it can actually be turned past 20 without distorting so bad it breaks up. The new speakers handle the gain and you can adjust the EQ and front to rear. Like to put the bias toward the rear just a bit to help with the bass in the front , they really are quite nice. Really enjoying this as it’s my first EV . Thanks
I've actually watched both yours and Josh's videos multiple time. I really appreciate that someone's out there giving us some info. Question, though. What brand/model did you get for both from and back? I see the Pyle, but which model specifically? Thanks!
Rear - Pyle PL463Blue Label 240watt 4ohm $20 EBay
Front - Faital Pro 4FE35 60Watt 8ohm $40 EBay
Nothing Fancy but The $ was worth the experiment as my friends have spend hundreds before and the system sounds worse than stock.

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