buickanddeere
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Re: 6.6kW charging

Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:45 am

buickanddeere wrote:
buickanddeere wrote:I don't see how a 6.6Kw charger is a whole lot more $$$ to install in a Volt or Spark than a 3.3Kw.
Please explain your last paragraph with the 240 charging generator.
Actually the traction motor generates AC when in down hill regen mode.the inverter/converter electronic drive power modual rectumfies the AC from the motor/generator's stator windings into DC .

Hertz
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Re: 6.6kW charging

Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:36 pm

I wanted to renew this topic.
As Chevy Spark EV and Chevy Bolt has a lot in common and Bolt has 7.2 kW on board charger. So I got an idea if it would be possible to put in Spark EV charging socket and charger from Bolt. Would it work?

JPL
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Re: 6.6kW charging

Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:05 am

I am looking into this already.

It is not plug and play. The wires from the onboard charger to the battery modules needs to be upgraded and the firmware hacked.

I'm going to install a 10kW Tesla model S onboard charger instead as is widely available and have been successful controlled already.

Stay tuned
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NORTON
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Re: 6.6kW charging

Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:51 am

JPL wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:05 am
I'm going to install a 10kW Tesla model S onboard charger instead
What about getting the TMS system to play along?
You don't want to charge at 10kW in the summer without cooling, correct?
Used '14 2LT w/ DCFC. +71 K miles.
Mostly free charging! Only one LONG visit to the shop....
GM needs Modern Troubleshooting tools for Modern EV's.
3 step Trouble Tree, 2nd guess not covered by warranty and cost $800. 3rd guess fixed the problem.

Dominic49
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Re: 6.6kW charging

Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:51 pm

NORTON wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:51 am
JPL wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:05 am
I'm going to install a 10kW Tesla model S onboard charger instead
What about getting the TMS system to play along?
You don't want to charge at 10kW in the summer without cooling, correct?
You can leave the factory charger in place to control the cooling system.

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Re: 6.6kW charging

Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:00 am

Dominic49 wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:51 pm
NORTON wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:51 am
JPL wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:05 am
I'm going to install a 10kW Tesla model S onboard charger instead
What about getting the TMS system to play along?
You don't want to charge at 10kW in the summer without cooling, correct?
You can leave the factory charger in place to control the cooling system.
But wouldn't the Onboard Charge have to be active for it to call for the TMS to run?
TMS is only active when plugged in or powered up.

It's a complicated subject and all the hackers would be teaching themselves....

A Fiat 500e comes with 6.6kW charging, I believe. Wouldn't it be easier to just buy one of those if a higher charge rate is important to you?
Or a Leaf?

Most newer EV's will have that rate stock. I'm biding my time for a newer EV. I want high tech 'driver assist' features! Like Cadillac's Super Cruise.
Used '14 2LT w/ DCFC. +71 K miles.
Mostly free charging! Only one LONG visit to the shop....
GM needs Modern Troubleshooting tools for Modern EV's.
3 step Trouble Tree, 2nd guess not covered by warranty and cost $800. 3rd guess fixed the problem.

JAMMan
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Re: 6.6kW charging

Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:05 am

Hertz wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:36 pm
Chevy Spark EV and Chevy Bolt has a lot in common
Do they?? I was unaware they shared ANY parts. From what I gather the two are totally unrelated except that I'm sure Chevy's R&D used information gained from their Spark EV and Volt to create the Bolt. I don't believe there are any shared parts......

SparkPlugEV
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Re: 6.6kW charging

Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:59 pm

There is a somewhat portable DC quick charger that charges at around 10kW. Weighs about 40 lbs and can fit in the trunk of the Spark EV. You can't keep it in the trunk when in use though as it needs ventilation. It's basically an AC to DC converter with smart features.

You can get it with a CHAdeMO or CCS Combo plug or a higher model with interchangeable plugs to use both.
The input is J1772 female connector so you can connect to regular Level 2 charging stations. Or can get a NEMA 14-50 adapter and charge at RV parks.

https://www.evseadapters.com/products/p ... k-charger/

This is a US reseller but I have been in contact with the manufacturer which I will remain nameless.

Some Spark EV users have already been using it in the USA. I've never seen one here in Canada.

But the only problem I see at the moment is it's only CE certified (like many aftermarket EVSE) - which is a self-certification mark.
It does not have UL, ETL, or TUV electrical certifications which are usually required for North America.

Level 1 and 2 EVSE with CE mark only might not be too much of an issue as most of the communication and limitations is done by the car's BMU but I'm a little bit skeptical Level 3 charger without recognized electrical certifications.
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