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nikwax said:
SparkevBlogspot said:
TonyWilliams said:
I have just completed San Diego to Sacramento a few weeks ago in a Toyota RAV4 EV, equipped to be recharged with CHAdeMO.
rst time at San Diego Zoo parking lot. Problem is, it wasn't actually charging, but they were taking the spot for convenience of parking closer, but looking like it's charging while plugged in! That effectively shut out a spot for BEV to actually charge. These low electric range plug in hybrids are worse than worthless. Since no one checks, I wonder if some idiot will put J1772 port on a SUV to park closer, too.</vent mode>



pretty sure in California that cars can be towed for parking in a charging spot when not actively charging

???
There is a California law on the books and I have seen a couple of DCFC locations where a sign is clearly posted. Whether it is enforced or not is another question. I am thinking about carrying a few copies of the law and leaving a copy under the wiper blade of offenders. Maybe the license plate should also be photographed and posted on a Facebook EV hall of shame.
 
There is a California law on the books and I have seen a couple of DCFC locations where a sign is clearly posted. Whether it is enforced or not is another question. I am thinking about carrying a few copies of the law and leaving a copy under the wiper blade of offenders. Maybe the license plate should also be photographed and posted on a Facebook EV hall of shame.[/quote]

Perhaps it is easier to read the applicable code sections in reverse order.

California Vehicle Code:
22511.1. (a) A person shall not park or leave standing a vehicle in
a stall or space designated pursuant to Section 22511 unless the
vehicle is connected for electric charging purposes.
(b) A person shall not obstruct, block, or otherwise bar access to
parking stalls or spaces described in subdivision (a) except as
provided in subdivision (a).

22511. (a) A local authority, by ordinance or resolution, and a
person in lawful possession of an offstreet parking facility may
designate stalls or spaces in an offstreet parking facility owned or
operated by that local authority or person for the exclusive purpose
of charging and parking a vehicle that is connected for electric
charging purposes.
(b) If posted in accordance with subdivision (d) or (e), the owner
or person in lawful possession of a privately owned or operated
offstreet parking facility, after notifying the police or sheriff's
department, may cause the removal of a vehicle from a stall or space
designated pursuant to subdivision (a) in the facility to the nearest
public garage if the vehicle is not connected for electric charging
purposes.
(c) If posted in accordance with subdivision (d), the local
authority owning or operating an offstreet parking facility, after
notifying the police or sheriff's department, may cause the removal
of a vehicle from a stall or space designated pursuant to subdivision
(a) in the facility to the nearest garage, as defined in Section
340, that is owned, leased, or approved for use by a public agency if
the vehicle is not connected for electric charging purposes.
(d) The posting required for an offstreet parking facility owned
or operated either privately or by a local authority shall consist of
a sign not less than 17 by 22 inches in size with lettering not less
than one inch in height that clearly and conspicuously states the
following: "Unauthorized vehicles not connected for electric charging
purposes will be towed away at owner's expense. Towed vehicles may
be reclaimed at

_______________________________ or by telephoning
(Address)
_______________________________________________."
(Telephone number of local law enforcement
agency)

The sign shall be posted in either of the following locations:
(1) Immediately adjacent to, and visible from, the stall or space.
(2) In a conspicuous place at each entrance to the offstreet
parking facility.
(e) If the parking facility is privately owned and public parking
is prohibited by the posting of a sign meeting the requirements of
paragraph (1) of subdivision (a) of Section 22658, the requirements
of subdivision (b) may be met by the posting of a sign immediately
adjacent to, and visible from, each stall or space indicating that a
vehicle not meeting the requirements of subdivision (a) will be
removed at the owner's expense and containing the telephone number of
the local traffic law enforcement agency.
(f) This section does not interfere with existing law governing
the ability of local authorities to adopt ordinances related to
parking programs within their jurisdiction, such as programs that
provide free parking in metered areas or municipal garages for
electric vehicles.
 
Leafless said:
There is a California law on the books and I have seen a couple of DCFC locations where a sign is clearly posted. Whether it is enforced or not is another question. I am thinking about carrying a few copies of the law and leaving a copy under the wiper blade of offenders. Maybe the license plate should also be photographed and posted on a Facebook EV hall of shame.

Perhaps it is easier to read the applicable code sections in reverse order.

California Vehicle Code:
22511.1. (a) A person shall not park or leave standing a vehicle in
a stall or space designated pursuant to Section 22511 unless the
vehicle is connected for electric charging purposes.
(b) A person shall not obstruct, block, or otherwise bar access to
parking stalls or spaces described in subdivision (a) except as
provided in subdivision (a).

22511. (a) A local authority, by ordinance or resolution, and a
person in lawful possession of an offstreet parking facility may
designate stalls or spaces in an offstreet parking facility owned or
operated by that local authority or person for the exclusive purpose
of charging and parking a vehicle that is connected for electric
charging purposes.
(b) If posted in accordance with subdivision (d) or (e), the owner
or person in lawful possession of a privately owned or operated
offstreet parking facility, after notifying the police or sheriff's
department, may cause the removal of a vehicle from a stall or space
designated pursuant to subdivision (a) in the facility to the nearest
public garage if the vehicle is not connected for electric charging
purposes.
(c) If posted in accordance with subdivision (d), the local
authority owning or operating an offstreet parking facility, after
notifying the police or sheriff's department, may cause the removal
of a vehicle from a stall or space designated pursuant to subdivision
(a) in the facility to the nearest garage, as defined in Section
340, that is owned, leased, or approved for use by a public agency if
the vehicle is not connected for electric charging purposes.
(d) The posting required for an offstreet parking facility owned
or operated either privately or by a local authority shall consist of
a sign not less than 17 by 22 inches in size with lettering not less
than one inch in height that clearly and conspicuously states the
following: "Unauthorized vehicles not connected for electric charging
purposes will be towed away at owner's expense. Towed vehicles may
be reclaimed at

_______________________________ or by telephoning
(Address)
_______________________________________________."
(Telephone number of local law enforcement
agency)

The sign shall be posted in either of the following locations:
(1) Immediately adjacent to, and visible from, the stall or space.
(2) In a conspicuous place at each entrance to the offstreet
parking facility.
(e) If the parking facility is privately owned and public parking
is prohibited by the posting of a sign meeting the requirements of
paragraph (1) of subdivision (a) of Section 22658, the requirements
of subdivision (b) may be met by the posting of a sign immediately
adjacent to, and visible from, each stall or space indicating that a
vehicle not meeting the requirements of subdivision (a) will be
removed at the owner's expense and containing the telephone number of
the local traffic law enforcement agency.
(f) This section does not interfere with existing law governing
the ability of local authorities to adopt ordinances related to
parking programs within their jurisdiction, such as programs that
provide free parking in metered areas or municipal garages for
electric vehicles.[/quote]
Thanks for the post.

"22511.1. (a) A person shall not park or leave standing a vehicle in a stall or space designated pursuant to Section 22511 unless the vehicle is connected for electric charging purposes."
Unfortunately, there are some inconsiderate EV drivers who just connect the charge cable to their car without charging in order to give the appearance they are charging. I have seen this happen and it is quite irritating, especially if you need to charge.
 
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