DarrenDonovan said:
JeremyW said:
I'm a current Leaf owner who is debating getting one of these little rocket cars when my leaf lease is up.
Jeremy
Just curious, are you also considering another Leaf? If not why not?
I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I think http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=17045 really soured his thoughts on Nissan.
For context, the Leaf originally had no battery capacity warranty at all. Nissan made a whole bunch of statements both in literature, manuals and video as to how much capacity loss owners should expect. Then, in the middle of their 2nd summer, was when '11 Phoenix Leaf owners and others in hot climates were noticing MUCH worse capacity loss than we were led to believe (capacity bars lost). TonyWilliams conducted a range test of some of the capacity losers: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=228326.
More info at http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=9694.
Someone also independently (IIRC), unbeknownst to us, filed a class action lawsuit (referenced at http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=18905). Some folks opted out (I never qualified anyway as I have a '13) and I believe at the time, it wasn't stated what the consequences would be.
Apparently, it seems Nissan adding a battery capacity warranty (http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13192) was something that came out of the above lawsuit.
Well, fast forward and we found out that those who opted out would be EXCLUDED from the capacity warranty: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=17045. Lots of people were thinking "WTF?!?" I haven't been following closely (as I don't care much as it doesn't affect me)... but things have been fluid. I believe they can re-opt back in now.
I'm guessing he's looking for EVs w/active battery thermal management. Leaf has no battery thermal management at all, other than a lame heater that does most Leafer drivers little/no good (https://www.cars.com/articles/2011/06/2012-nissan-leaf-battery-warmer-more-details/).